We were coming down Freeman Street to the club, and they started calling us out. This was way before anybody was selling drugs. But you gotta remember one thing: When we were kids, we didnt have to kill anybody. Us, the Chaplains, and the Spanish guys all got together and they gave us an ultimatum: Either we made peace or we were gonna start going to jail. Every time he came by the block there was a shootout, so everybody was always aware when he was passing by. It got to a point where a gang called the Fordham Baldieswho were like the biggest Italian gang in the Bronxheard about us and came down and made us a brother club. If we had a problem between us, wed all go meet over at City Hall and wear different color bandanas so people knew where you were from. On that day the Baldies happened to be in Section 11 and when someone asked for help, they proceeded to Section 17 to inform the Red Wings that this was their area. The 70s was real nice. When wed fight with the black guys, it was more or less hit and run. Here's the spotify link:https://open.spotify.com/artist/0FJNuMjFZHeQKJXR0DlmzX?si=RjpC0Rx4SpWB7sXFlct-Qg\u0026utm_source=copy-link\u0026dl_branch=1\u0026nd=1 Like I remember coming home and having my sister-in-law crying, and I would walk in the house and make believe I didnt know why. I never shot up. I carried a .25, then later a 9 mm. I got in, it was dark, and then when I put on the light all I saw was coffins, so I ran out. Gone is the cluttered window offerings of the candy store. Click here to learn more about Ernests life as well as pictures of Ernie before he was killed. Then wed be getting high all night till the sun came up, going to the beach, listening to music. It goes something like this: While at school, a rumour makes the rounds that the Baldies are coming to the school (insert school name here). Students are in an uproar and are on pins and needles, waiting for a Baldy invasion. If you drank that, it was like forget about it. had zip-guns. Many of us had guns, although I never knew of any used in a fight. - Mgm|(talk) 05:47, 29 January 2007 (UTC), this was in the HelpDesk when I had the article's name changed. This guy Georgie Grout, he had a car antenna and he threw it down and this guy must have been, I dunno, 40 feet away? The University also supports a number of club sports, and a significant intramural . We used to make choppers with four- and six-polesextensions, you know? He had hair just like mussolini in real life, and I'm the princess of canada although I can't offically back that up with paperwork. It became, This is where were selling drugs. People were having shootouts left and right. In that neighborhood, if you werent in a gang, you just went to school and you were fine, but if you were in a gang your chances of survival were 50/50. Eventually everybody said, Were not going to dance no more. They ran books, they stole, they shylocked money They ran the neighborhood, whatever they did. There are 41 of them, and each member is a serious brawler. People from the neighborhood never called the cops on us because we were never troublemakers. We never really had any problem with the Hasidics. I would say, three out of every five shootouts, somebody would get hit. It was just that I started hanging out over here more than over at the other side. Rainy days, wed be inside watching TV. By signing up, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy & to receive electronic communications from Vice Media Group, which may include marketing promotions, advertisements and sponsored content. Film Details Also Known As Wanderers MPAA Rating R Genre Adaptation Comedy Drama Period Release Date 1979 Distribution Company KINO LORBER/ORION PICTURES Technical Specs Duration 1h 53m Sound Stereo Color Color (Technicolor) Theatrical Aspect Ratio 1.66 : 1 Me and him got along because there was no competition and we really loved each other. If he was alone, he got his ass kicked. It was nothing to have like three or four shootouts a day. Mostly we drank wine. The gangs started separating. Then, in a way that only the Internet can make happen, I received an email from another nephew of Ernests who was actually able to find Ernests unborn son at the time (when Ernest was killed he was married with a boy and his wife was 7 months pregnant with another son on the way). It was where I was going to end up, whether I wanted to or not. From Spanish Harlem, we moved to the South Bronx. I never wore colors. If anyone stepped in, (stepped out of turn) he was accounted for verbally and brutally. That was the end of him. We did most of our dirty business on the railroad tracks, so we got the name The Railroad Boys. We had a gang that started in high school. That was it. They had high collars, buttoned down, and on the back you had RR. But we didnt really go out of our way too much with the sweaters and the costumes. Hell no. I could make up to $20. But you can find where it was filmed on this list. They had another Italian neighborhood, down on Cherry Street and Madison that was just the same as ours. We were in the papers more than the president. The official 2023 Women's Volleyball Roster for the Fordham University Rams You lived in an apartment with four rooms and four people, and it was so close that you really lived in the street because you had to get out of the house. Someone please remove this, its a rap music term. They help people out. Was a wild time growing up, some bad, some good, but many learning experiences came from those times. It was because of who you were. He got killed a few years later. I lived in abandoned buildings with them. Nobody ever bothered to call the cops, because everybody wanted to just take care of him. I am currently researching these two killings one in 1958 and the other in 1959 and hope to write about them in more detail in the future. Chair (JMH 642) Bionanotechnology, Biochemistry, and Nanomedicine. This was on Fulton and Rockaway, a half block from my house. I mean, I know I never did it. The parents always got along, and we always respected their parents and they respected our parents. I never wore Property of. In the gang, the girls used to have to wear Property of on their jackets. I knew so many people that everybody would open their doors for me. He lived like that for a long time. One of our guys got stabbed 20 times by the Flaming Satans. Some Red Wings attended near-by Benjamin Franklin High School. First, five guys would go into a club and do a dance routine. Mostly a lot of chains, bats, and knives. When the pill came, everything changed. They were on the highway, and the guy said something out the window to his girl, and they went back and forth, then finally pulled off the highway up by Bryant Park. You go to parties and see a lot of the same faces. For about ten minutes the two groups faced off against each other, calling each other names, threatening each other, and in the Baldies case, jeering Bella. When everything was done, there was one of them dead from a gunshot and a knife wound. This event took place in Washington Heights, We used to convert it to our style, with bandanas and patches and everything. I lived down the block from an armory, and there was a sergeant who would come every morning and buy seven bags of dope. Back then you just hung out with the right people. I guess some guys, you know, went with them. We had everything sold by sunrise. But heres the thing: I was never a member of that gang. We were so fuckin broke, we had six jackets and maybe 30 guys. So there wasnt one particular reason. hairstyle later made famous by Fonzie from Happy Days. Wed cut a hole in the fence, go in the cemetery, and have make-out sessions. My brother Alex started wearing patches when he was hanging out with this other club, the Dirty Ones. My brothers were making money selling drugs but I didnt want to get into it. The next time you went to the club, theyd be there and it would be like, Oh, we had a fight with these guys last time. THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE OF FORDHAM UNIVERSITY ATHLETICS Main Navigation Menu. Robert Beer, Ph.D. (JMH 634) Giampetruzzi, Bonano, Santanielli and the rest of the Red Wings high tailed it out of the Bronx back to East Harlem, seething over the insults and plotting revenge. This let anyone down in the park know you were coming. We didnt mess with the people from the neighborhood. But thats the way they did it in those days. We never went crazy in our neighborhood, and whoever did, they would hear about it from us the next day. It worked the same way for us when we were in their neighborhood. Or if you get hit with a shotgun, forget it. Wed have sticks, bats, clubs, and bottles, and wed just beat the heck out of each other until the cops came or until we got tired of it. The resulting group took their name from the Bronx's Belmont Avenue. There was a shootout and it so happens that she was working at that time, and she got killed. It was all music and sex and everybody getting high. (3) Police busted up a potential rumble and arrested some Gowanus Tvoz | talk 06:11, 30 January 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply], I agree with and understand all the changes. There were opium dens down in Chinatown. Baldies wounded.Fordham Baldies/Italian Red Wings Gang War. However, in this case below, the violence was actually with another white gang called the Fordham Baldies. It was just fighting all the time. With us in the building, there was security. Baseball Baseball: Facebook Baseball: Twitter Baseball: Instagram Baseball: Schedule Baseball: Roster Baseball: News Basketball Basketball: Facebook Basketball: Twitter Basketball: Instagram Basketball: Schedule Basketball: Roster Basketball: News Cross Country Cross Country: Facebook Cross Country: Twitter Cross . Theyd hang around. I proposed some sections, but there is still lots of work to be done. By the way, there were always fights yet it was all handled with reverence, one on one. The Viceroys were a Puerto Rican gang from 103rd Street, between Park and Madison Avenues. He was able to shed some light on his father Mario and how he felt about Ernests death at the hands of the Red Wings. Everybody knew who was who. When I did get arrested, my little brothermay he rest in peacehe was involved. I think that had a lot to do with the fact that I wasnt a member. So this guy started going off with everybody. Before that, date rape was the usual. You won. Go home. They were knife-happy. If you dont do it, youre not part of the crew. Sometimes after I got done kicking her ass, one of my girlfriends would come and, you know, kick her ass some more. They punctured his lung and he almost died. Usually it was chains or sticks; knives and zip guns occasionally. The gang was started around 1955 by the older guys. People were sniffing glue, so the bodegas began to sell glue because it was so popular. We didnt even have to do anything. It was like a game. The guys in the restaurants were cool with us, and in return, we took care of them. Before we started getting high on dope, we were sniffing glue. The Woodside Chiefs, of whom I was a member were not a gang. We rumbled with their guys, and that started a war between the clubs. This guy was always strapped. At school, a high school teacher accidentally sparks a race riot between the Italian gang the Wanderers and the Black gang the Del-Bombers. Theres still a lot of people around. You stick a car antenna in it and file down the part that you cock backthe hammer. Click here to order your copy of Brooklyn Rumble today! Who was I supposed to hang out with? After a while, if he called the police, then we would be angry at him. Hispanics and Blacks were just coming into prominence in the late 50's. Its much harsher than coke. Overdosed, stuff like that. *Click on Fullscreen to see the full trial minutes*. I was satisfied with sniffing. When he died, my brother Carlos took over. An ex-Wanderer had this to say: I was a Wanderer! Unless this was a separate incident, the gang was not the Redwings, but the Sinners. I buried three of my brothers because of being in gangs and being involved in drugs and living in the ghetto. It wasnt too hard to see the handwriting on the wall. On the west side of Astoria, members came from the It would scare people. Forget about iteverywhere you went, every corner, the drugs were there. Then they got out of the cars a second time and the guy ran away and Frankie ran after him. If you remember the scene where they tied a rope to the penises of two guys on a bridge and threw a cinder block over the side down to the a river, that was the Bronx River near French Charlie's baseball field. Then you tie the hammer up with rubber bands, pull it back, and let it go. He got stitched up, and we hung out and got high afterward. My kid brother ended up dying. In 1957, the Viceroys stabbed and killed an Enchanter. Its cheaper than coke, and you get whacked on it. I would break into the sweater factory, the clothes factory, the pillow factory I even broke into a coffin factory one day. I caught a few. I used to hide sometimes on the corner and wait for him, just hoping to get him. If you had war with somebody, then you could walk around their block wearing your colors, trying to be funny. A lot of my buddies went in. These are the people that we grew up with. If it aint from close range, you just have to wait for the pellets to come out later. He didnt see where I was shooting from, so I ran like two or three cars up and hid under the last one. Five leather jacket clad Astoria gangs almost mix it up with You were whacked out of your face. They heard that the Italian Dukes were brother gangs with the Fordham Baldies, so if you were walking around with an Italian Dukes jacket, they didnt fuck with you. THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE OF FORDHAM UNIVERSITY ATHLETICS Main Navigation Menu. Today, thats what the gangs call itthe Bloods, the Crips, all of them, they call it flagging: I die for my flag. They had some young girls on like Oprah or something who said that. I got locked up with another friend of mine. Ernests son is now 58 years old and just now found out about his familys history in New York City. He must have had a vest, cause let me tell you, this guy had fucking balls. I dont want to glorify it, because for todays youth theres nothing to glorify in gangs, but back then it was what we did to survive. They had a lotta heart. Or somebody would tell me, Listen, I got a van, brand new, and I wanna collect insurance. So he would tell me where he parked it. Rivals: Allerton Avenue gang, Parkside gang, and the Wanderers gang. 1954 Red Wings & Fordham Baldies The Red Wings were a well-known and powerful Italian gang situated in East Harlem. I personally didnt believe in jumping people. The 2 external links that I supplied give a lot more detail and documentation, and I suggest that the next editor of this piece start there. Pichon, President of the original Latin Kings of Highbridge Park, '63, currently living in the West Coast. We quit school at 16, and we went up to the park, we drank wine, and we ran up and down the street beating each other up. It was like one big family. Not every club was friendly. They talked about it, shook hands, and then we were brother clubs. A loosely organized street gang with fewer than 60 members and a name inspired by a cartoon has taken on near-mythical status among high school students in New York City, the police and school. It was a black guy who did it to him, in a fight over a girl. We had a lot of guys in the gangsometimes we had 40, sometimes we had 60, sometimes we had 100. It was a crazy neighborhood. areas at 8 PM. You know, if somebody needed to get high, you made sure they got high; if someone got locked up, you make sure when they got out, you threw a party. If somebody says, Oh, let me see your colors, turn around, its not something you do. Later on we had a clubhouse where wed hang out all the time. With a peculiar frequency, a click of the cable remote shows the Fordham Baldies hanging out at the corner of Fordham Road and Grand Concourse, the foot chase through 1963 central Bronx alleyways . Tully High School seniors Richie, Joey and Perry run with a gang called The Wanderers in the Bronx. Originating in the late 1940s, the Red Wings appeared on the record until at least 1959. We were all hanging out together already, the Unknowns and the South 9s. Joey DiMassi is leader of the Fordham Baldies, respected for his fairness and decency. He was invincible. Or if he was with his mother, we wouldnt say nothing to him. DiVincenzo and Caleo were both members of the Baldies but had no criminal record. Walk all the way back to where we live, just to get high, then hustle again to get lunch. What used to happen was, wed hang out at someones apartment, but then theyd move out. Me and another Unknown Biker were convicted for it. Click here to learn more about Ernests life as well as pictures of Ernie before he was killed. I doubt anyone walking down the street knew that in 1954 Ernest was killed and Bernard and Angelo were severely injured in a gang war. On February 23, 2018, my book on the Mau Maus and Sand Street Angels, who were two Brooklyn youth gangs from the 1950s, has . They said, Why should I buy drugs to sell when I can steal his and sell them? It happened all the time. In the 1950s and 60s the youth gangs in the Bronx, New York, emerged with a particular notoriety.. One gang, the Fordham Baldies were reputed to shave the heads, and other body parts, of those they caught. I used to steal a lot from factories. of the day,' black leather jackets dungarees and boots. Its something you die for, like a flag. Everything started out with sweaters. You lived in one building, and the buildings to your left and right were abandoned, because they were gutted out by fires. The Fordham Rams are members of NCAA Division I and compete in the Atlantic 10 Conference for most sports. If you were out to get a guy, you wanted to put him in the hospital. Belmont Avenue, near East 189th Street. Naturally, there were a lot of shot-up people. Then, you know, the blacks started coming in and naturally there was tension and we banded together. Some of the cops knew us too. I gave her two bucks and I came in about two seconds, then went home and jerked off ten times thinking about it. I was first in a gang when I lived in East Harlem. Then you had the Satans Souls for a while, who were on South 5th and Hoover. We went up there and basically we started hanging out and we became the Railroad Boys. Their turf was around Jefferson Park, 116th Avenue and Pleasant Ave. They werent really that strong of a weapon. "When they were shooting the recruiting scene with the Fordham Baldies," Price recalled, "the actors were hanging out on the intersection of the Grand Concourse and Fordham Road right by Alexander's Department Store and Loew's Paradise, this massive Moorish movie palace. I snorted it, sometimes I shot it, but not often. A 25 year-old hanger- FYI, this list is from The College Finder, 2017 edition now available! He suffers from asthma. That wasnt allowed in that neighborhood because that old lady may be some big shot gangsters relative. Side Story. One guys father was a hunter, and he went on vacation. We had like one pistol, and that was for everybody, because every now and then you had a confrontation that would require it. In Williamsburg, where we were, it was the Majestics, the Dukes, the Unknown Bikers, South 9 Bikers, Spanish Kings, Devil Rebels, Dirty Ones, and a bunch more. This time it was a Red Wings invasion. A lot of times, people would come back all beat up and bruised. Only Chinese guys did opium. But it isnt like we were setting out to take over the building. We had a building on the Southside that we painted up with Free Sonny Barger. He was the Hells Angels national president who was locked up at the time. Anyway, we werent vicious kids. Once again, I wanted to go out with someone who was in that gang. If youre in my club, I take you at face value. Our gang was the wiseguys, you know what I mean? We went down one night, had a fight with them, and Ill never forget it: We chased them all the way down Evergreen Avenue, and all of a sudden about 60 or 70 of them came out of a house. Gang wars were very infrequent and when they did occur hardly ever was there any firearms used. Basically, the Dirty Ones was the only gang that was friendly with us. It was easier to sell. One gang, the Fordham Baldies were reputed to shave the heads, and other body parts, of those they caught. The Fordham Rams are the varsity sports teams for Fordham University.Their colors are maroon and white. If I had to stick you, I would stick you. Underneath the hill, there were the train tracks. I left my mothers house when I was 14. We didnt have rules or initiations. Thats the bottom line. At its centre is Italian-American kid Richie (Ken Wahl) who is one of. Youd be saying, I dont give a shit who you are, calling the club out. You push a guy up against a wall with a car, just push him till he hits the wall. When I was growing up, stealing old ladies pocketbooks was the big thing. Before the pill, you mostly just had blowjobs. Dusty Vision TV on Facebook and IG Hit the subscribe and notification (bell) button!BRONX GANGS Of The 1960s - FORDHAM BALDIES Wanderers Ducky Boys Lost Boys of The Bronx James HannonI dont not own the rights to any music in this videoDusty Vision TV Instagram: Dusty Vision TVFacebook: Dusty Vision TVIf you would like to be a guest on my program please email me at dustyangeloddcast@gmail.com or DM me on Instagram \"Dusty Vision TV\"Check out my other youtube channel \"Dusty Vision Radio\"https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQCpoV0wVvjtGQN5ijpjGKACheck out my music. It was about territory. I think I shot two or three times with my .25 before it jammed. So the guys said, If you dont do it, were gonna strip you. And thats where the war began. bayonets, brass knuckles, and garrison belts before officers swoop that Farmer was a member of a rival gang called "The Jesters" (It's not known whether or not Farmer was a gang member thougheven to this day). They didnt like me too much. They knew it was my kid brother, but all the witnesses were saying it was me. Youre walking down the street, you see somebody that you dont like, who isnt in your gang. I think Frankie got the best of him, and they got back in the cars, and Frankie chased him. We were never really into robbing people. That was when the Bronx was burning. Because we were like brothers. SM28, Mount Carmel Candy Store Home of the Best New York Egg Creams. They were with them most of the day. The biggest place we would go was the Starship. Unlike the idiotic movie the wanderers, however, they didn't have any blacks in the gang, they went around to other neighborhoods to see if they could find some to beat up. 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